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EP 107: Third Annual Handbid Holiday Trivia Showdown

Positioning review: No adjustments needed. This episode is a holiday trivia game with no product claims, outcome promises, or advisory content. All content is lighthearted entertainment among the Handbid team.

Jeff: Welcome to Elevate Your Event, your favorite podcast for transforming fundraising events. Join us weekly for expert tips and creative ideas to make your next event a standout success. Welcome back to Elevate Your Event and welcome to the most wonderfully chaotic episode of the year. It's our third annual Handbid Holiday Trivia Showdown, where Christmas knowledge is questionable and the competition gets real intense. From movie moments and classic carols to pop culture weirdness and Bible deep cuts, we go head to head to see who will be crowned this year's holiday trivia champion. Grab some cocoa, play along, and get ready to laugh because this is the festive chaos you didn't know you needed. Let's get into it.

Jeff: Well, this is the Elevate Your Event podcast, I suppose. We're going to do a Christmas show. We're having fun today.

Elise N: We are. And we are dressed for it.

Jeff: Well, some of us are dressed for the occasion. I actually do not own a Christmas sweater. How is that possible? I have a red -- look, I'm wearing red.

Elise N: Yeah, that's good.

Jeff: So I was talking to my wife. I'm like, do we have any Christmas sweaters? And she said, well, I think we have one that maybe is in Jake's closet from when he was in like eighth grade or something.

Elise N: Well, that's not going to fit you.

Jeff: Unless Jake was completely shredded in eighth grade. I have the dad bod.

Elise D: Me and Baker Mayfield. We're definitely twins.

Jeff: Me, Patrick Mahomes, and Baker Mayfield have the same dad bods. It's awesome.

Elise N: That's fantastic.

Jeff: All right. Well, we have in the studio today Elise Neugebauer, and she has come with all of her Christmas knowledge because we're going to do trivia today. Elise Druckenmiller, who just finished saying a prayer to the Lord, apologizing for all of the Bible trivia questions she's about to get wrong. True story.

Jeff: And producer Mark back here for moral support. No, he's going to -- you're bringing in the Bible trivia. I'm counting on you winning this thing. Like when we don't know the answer, Mark Thompson.

Jeff: All right, should we dive into this thing here? Let's dive in. I'm going to keep score on my phone.

Elise N: I'm also going to keep track of who's cheating.

Jeff: Anyway, there's no cheaters in this group. No one has access to this Figma file but me, so I think I'm feeling pretty good about that. Are you guys ready to start?

Elise N: We're ready.

Jeff: We've got four sections. We're going to start with movies, then we're going to go to music, then pop culture, and we're going to end with the Lord.

Elise D: That's right.

Jeff: Now, they get progressively harder in each group. There's six questions in each section, and there's a couple of bonus questions. It'll be fun, but they will get a little harder for each question. All right, you guys ready?

Jeff: Christmas movies. Here we go. In Home Alone, what city does Kevin's family travel to for Christmas vacation?

Elise N: Paris.

Jeff: I was going to be like, Home Alone one or two? And I also know where he lived -- Chicago. Let's make sure. Maybe I should give a bonus. She's right. There we go, Paris. All right, Paris is the right answer. Remember, they start out easy.

Elise N: I'll take them where I can get them. That's your girl.

Jeff: Question number two. In Elf, what is the first rule of the Code of the Elves?

Elise D: Oh. The first rule is -- oh my gosh, I feel like I just -- my daughter was watching this movie the other day. The first rule -- I don't know. Something about Santa.

Elise N: No, I think it has something to do with -- I can't think of it either. I feel like as soon as you say it I'm going to be like, dang it. Spreading Christmas cheer?

Jeff: No.

Mark: Singing loud for all to hear.

Jeff: No. I mean, that's -- we have singing loud for all to hear, we got spreading Christmas cheer. It's part of the rhyme she's picking up on. The first code -- I can't think of it. Well, you're going to go with spreading Christmas cheer. You're going to go with singing loud for all to hear. You both are wrong. Treat every day like Christmas.

Elise N: Look at that. Oh, were we on rule number three? I'm on the nice list.

Jeff: Yeah, there you go. Well, that was number two, and we were going with the first one. So anyway, treat every day like Christmas. No points. No points.

Elise D: Oh man, okay.

Jeff: In The Santa Clause, what causes Scott Calvin to become Santa?

Elise N: Santa fell off the roof.

Mark: No, but he takes the card. He put on the suit.

Elise D: Oh yeah, he puts on the suit.

Jeff: Mark gets a point. He should get half from falling off the roof. Not going to. Yeah, but he puts on the suit because -- remember, he goes to see the head elf. What's the head elf's name?

Mark: Bernard.

Jeff: Yeah, Bernard. He's like, hey, I don't make the rules, you put the suit on, now you're Santa. That's right. It is all about the suit. I mean, he could have like shot him on the roof and put the suit on, right? So falling off the roof is not the critical element here. It's putting on the suit. All right. And who puts on a dirty dead suit? I mean, look at that thing, Scott Calvin.

Jeff: All right, here you go. In How the Grinch Stole Christmas, the live-action version, what is the name of the celebration the Grinch disrupts?

Elise N: Whoville? Well, yeah, it's Whoville, but the celebration is --

Elise D: Oh man. It's a good one.

Jeff: It has nothing to do with who. It's like Hanukkah.

Elise N: Hanukkah. I forget that song. We should play that one though. I can sing that one. Have James dub that one in there. That is not the song, by the way.

Jeff: It's some Dr. Seuss kind of name. The word "who" is in it, I know.

Elise N: Who-must. Who-alicious?

Jeff: Who-alicious? That sounds like the strip joint he goes to after he disrupts.

Elise N: Yeah, exactly.

Jeff: Nothing? All right. Who-bilation. We were so close.

Elise N: I was kind of close. And I was, who-must. You were on there. The who on there.

Jeff: The Who-bilation. We're just making it -- you know, giving time for our audience to really get these.

Elise N: That's right.

Jeff: We're going to go on to question five. Remember, these are getting harder.

Elise D: I know.

Jeff: All right. In A Christmas Story, what exact phrase does Ralphie rehearse to ask Santa for the BB gun?

Elise D: I don't know this one.

Jeff: I'll give you some slides on this one. It doesn't have to be exact. What exact phrase does Ralphie rehearse to ask Santa for the BB gun?

Elise N: You'll shoot your eye out. Oh, he's going up the stairs with his little brother and there's the kids.

Elise D: Oh, it's kind of fun. He gets on his lap.

Jeff: Oh man, you can see some of it in the slide. I see a couple of words that are in that phrase.

Elise N: Red Rider.

Jeff: Yep. BB gun.

Elise N: Red Rider. But is this something like -- oh, double action?

Jeff: You're getting there. It's not double action. It's called and-banded. The word is on there.

Elise N: Carbon fiber? Nope.

Jeff: Carbon fiber BB gun? Back in the 40s? This thing's -- I have a super light, doesn't get detected through TSA.

Elise N: Single action?

Jeff: It's not single action.

Elise D: Golden banded.

Jeff: Golden banded, 1,000-shot Red Rider BB gun.

Elise N: I don't know. You guys ready?

Jeff: Official Red Ryder carbine-action, two-hundred-shot range model air rifle. How would we know that?

Elise D: I'm going to go with none on that one.

Elise N: I would say none.

Jeff: Okay. This one might be a little harder. In A Christmas Story, what is the name of the department store where Ralphie first sees the Red Ryder BB gun?

Elise N: It's not Macy's.

Elise D: Bloomingdale's. I don't say Bloomingdale's. No.

Elise N: I've never seen the movie. Is it Gimbels or --

Jeff: Gimbels, that's Elf. That was last year's question. And I want to say like, they're panning in and he's telling the narrator, like, you know, every year they dress up the window at whatever. Does it start with an H?

Elise D: Yes. Oh my gosh, it's like right there. H. Harry's? No. Or Henderson's?

Jeff: Come on, Mark.

Mark: I know. I got close.

Jeff: Have you seen this movie, Elise?

Elise N: I've seen it, but not for years.

Jeff: All right, moving on. Higbee's.

Elise D: Who was on H? I'm like, it's something.

Jeff: All right. Obviously, movies are not y'all's thing. You know who's got the only point in the room? Mark's got a point. Yeah, I got two points. All right. Oh my gosh, okay, here we go.

Jeff: Next section. Christmas music. Mark, you should master Christmas music. I'm not trying to insinuate -- I know. Geez. I feel like -- pressure's on.

Elise N: Pressure is on, guys.

Jeff: Here we go. What Christmas song begins with the lyrics, "Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer"?

Elise N: Oh. Oh wow. I'm going to get points.

Jeff: She's coming out hot at the gate. Can I say the rest for our audience? You know Dasher and Dancer. What Christmas song begins with the lyrics? You know Prancer and Vixen. Yeah, all right. It is Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.

Jeff: Next question. Which Christmas song became famous through a stop-motion TV special?

Elise D: Is it Frosty the Snowman?

Elise N: What's the stop-motion TV special? Well, no, it's Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. But Frosty does too.

Jeff: But Frosty -- oh yeah, Frosty was. You're Frosty -- what are you?

Elise N: What is a stop-motion TV? Oh. It's the claymation stuff.

Jeff: It's claymation stuff. They move them and they take a snap and they move them again. Which Christmas song became famous through --

Mark: So I'm going to say the song Silver and Gold?

Jeff: You're going Silver and Gold. You're Frosty the Snowman? Sure, I don't think it's right.

Elise N: Silver Bells.

Jeff: Silver Bells. Oh look at that! I should have had more confidence.

Jeff: Elise Neugebauer is three to one to Mark. I feel like Frosty would have made the most sense.

Mark: I would have said that, but you'd already said it, so I had to say something else.

Jeff: Whatever. You could have said it too, and you guys could have split the point.

Elise D: Oh well. I didn't know that -- I thought that was cheating.

Jeff: She wasn't sure. She kept second-guessing herself. All right, moving on. Which Christmas song is the best-selling single of all time?

Mark: White Christmas.

Elise N: Oh, White Christmas.

Jeff: That is right. Mark coming up from behind. All right, next question. Which Christmas song was written during a heat wave by a songwriter living in Hollywood?

Elise D: Let It Snow.

Jeff: Name the Christmas song. Holy cow, people, come on.

Elise N: I was singing Mele Kalikimaka. That's Hawaiian. That is Hawaiian.

Jeff: I'm going to go with Jingle Bells.

Elise N: Jingle Bells. And you're the Hawaiian Christmas song.

Jeff: None of you are right. Winter Wonderland. What?

Elise D: Okay. All right. Come on.

Jeff: Here we go. Which modern Christmas pop song was the fastest to surpass one billion streams on Spotify?

Elise N: Mariah Carey's song.

Jeff: What's the name of that song? I didn't ask for the artist.

Elise N: All I Want for Christmas Is You.

Mark: Oh no.

Jeff: Tying Elise Neugebauer. Elise Druckenmiller's still with a donut.

Elise D: I had half of it right.

Jeff: All right, question six. Which classic Christmas hymn is actually a paraphrase of Psalm 98 and not originally about Christ's birth?

Elise D: Oh my gosh. I feel like that should be in the Bible section.

Jeff: Christmas hymn. Which classic Christmas song --

Elise N: Away in a Manger? Not originally about Christ's birth. It was about someone else that was born in a manger.

Elise D: Oh yeah.

Elise N: Jesus' brother.

Jeff: Hey, that was fine. This one's -- I don't know. What is this? I need to look at Psalm 98.

Elise D: We're going with Oh Come All Ye Faithful.

Elise N: We don't know. We both agree.

Jeff: You both are wrong. Mark's going to look up Psalm 98. You're not going to get it right because I'm not going to give it to you, but go ahead and read us Psalm 98 if you have it.

Mark: Yeah, here we go. Oh, this is a long one though. "Sing to the Lord a new song, for he has done marvelous things. His right hand and his holy arm have worked salvation for him." I mean, so this is nine verses. It's probably deeper in there.

Jeff: I didn't go look. The answer is Joy to the World.

Elise N: Oh, okay. Joy to the world, the Lord has come, let earth receive her king.

Elise D: Oh yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. You might have to go look for it.

Jeff: Okay, we're moving on, guys. We're out of the music category.

Elise N: That one makes a lot of sense. This one got me back in the --

Jeff: All right. We're moving on to holiday events and pop culture.

Elise D: All right. Okay.

Jeff: Clearly, the Lord is not with you. I just want to point that out.

Elise N: Where is that eggnog?

Jeff: Where is the famous New York City --

Elise N: Rockefeller.

Jeff: Oh my goodness. You guys, Elise is too fast for you. She's so close to the screen. I'm back here trying to manage cameras. So should we do this? Should we make Elise look at you while I read the question?

Elise N: No, that's all right.

Jeff: All right. Close your eyes, Elise. They need three seconds. Let's hear the question first. All right. What popular product sees a huge spike in December because people buy it for white elephant gifts?

Elise D: Oh. As seen on TV. What popular product? Oh, okay. As seen on TV products.

Jeff: What popular -- a huge spike in December. White elephant. Elise Neugebauer does not know this. You guys need to jump on this. Come on, popular. Oh my goodness.

Elise D: I mean, blow-up shark?

Mark: No.

Jeff: A product. That's what I buy for white elephant gifts in December. I'm trying to think of a white elephant gift that I feel like at every party I go to, but I can't think of one.

Elise N: I can't think of one either. It's like a common one that I've seen.

Elise D: It's like Four Roses? I mean, like, you know, whiskey?

Jeff: No.

Elise N: Irish Spring bar soap? Who gives a white elephant bottle of expensive bourbon? I want to go to your white elephant parties.

Jeff: It was the Handbid party last year I went to.

Elise D: Well, we do have good parties.

Elise N: I got bars of Irish Spring soap.

Jeff: Yeah. Is that the product?

Elise D: Okay, I was going to say -- are we done? You guys are done?

Jeff: I can't believe -- you know what, I honestly -- toilet paper? I cannot believe you guys didn't get this one. I really thought you were going to get this one.

Elise N: What is it?

Jeff: Chia Pet.

Elise D: They're still around?

Elise N: I've never even seen one of those.

Jeff: Chia, ch-ch-ch-chia. Yeah, but like when you were ten, Elise? When was the last time you saw one?

Elise N: I didn't realize that they were still around.

Jeff: Well, apparently -- I know what I'm getting for white elephants. Yeah, I better see one of these at the Handbid white elephants for Christmas season. Oh my gosh, we're going to show up. There's four of them. Oh, they've got like Homer Simpson. I know there's a lot of them now. All right, ready? I can't -- I'm really disappointed you guys.

Elise D: Sorry.

Jeff: But did you know that? Doesn't matter whether I knew it. So the answer is no.

Jeff: Which U.S. department store created Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer in 1939?

Elise N: Macy's.

Elise D: Bloomingdale's.

Mark: Gimbels.

Jeff: Gimbels is not an existing department store. In 1939. You guys may not get this one.

Elise D: Foley's? Just kidding. Montgomery Ward?

Jeff: Which department store created Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer in 1939? You're Bloomingdale's. No, you were Macy's. You're -- you said Bloomingdale. I did. Montgomery Ward.

Jeff: You guys ready? Mark got it. I needed that one.

Elise N: I know. I knew that it couldn't be Macy's because Macy's wasn't around that long ago. But then I was like, I don't know.

Jeff: Yeah, Montgomery Ward. Hilarious.

Jeff: All right. What European tradition features a creature who punishes misbehaving children during Christmas?

Elise N: Krampus. It's German.

Elise D: I don't know. I've never even heard of that before.

Jeff: Did you not see Red One?

Elise N: I did see Red One. One of the best Christmas movies.

Jeff: All right, Elise takes the lead again. It's five to four.

Elise D: Oh dang it. Elise Druckenmiller is here for moral support. I am.

Jeff: In what year did NORAD begin tracking Santa due to a misprinted phone number in the Sears and Roebuck catalog? I had to put this multiple choice.

Elise N: 1961.

Elise D: Okay, 61. 47.

Mark: 45.

Jeff: 55. Come on.

Jeff: She takes a two-point lead. That's all right. We're getting close to Bible trivia, Mark. This is going down. Let's go.

Mark: Hey, I got a phone a friend here.

Jeff: She might know this one too. In Icelandic Christmas folklore, what is the name of the giant cat said to eat people who don't receive new clothes by Christmas Eve? This is freaky.

Elise N: Why do all these folklores in the Scandinavian countries -- you can go with the English name of it, by the way. We don't have to go with the Icelandic. Oh, I do not know. I don't know it.

Elise D: You're going with Cheshire Cat.

Mark: Geronimo.

Elise N: I don't know anything about Icelandic Christmas folklore that eats children.

Elise D: Yeah, it's like -- oh gosh. What is his name? I'll just go with the American slash English name.

Jeff: We're going to assume you don't know. All right. Oh my gosh. Oh my goodness. Okay, now you have to say it, Jeff. The Yule Cat. That's all I got to know. Y'all got Yule-en. Okay.

Jeff: We're going into the last section here. Elise Neugebauer has six points. Mark has four.

Mark: Oh gosh. I got to come back.

Jeff: Elise Druckenmiller has none.

Jeff: All right, let's keep it rolling. You need to conjure up the Holy Spirit to answer these questions for you because you're way behind. You could tie Elise, and we're going to have to come up with some form of a tiebreaker.

Elise N: She's not going to get six. I'm not.

Jeff: I'll go to last year's trivia and pull some hard ones out if we have to go to a tiebreaker. Okay. All right. The Christmas story -- Bible trivia. The first one is really easy.

Elise N: Bethlehem.

Jeff: All right. Where was Jesus born? Bethlehem is correct.

Elise D: Oh look how close I was. Okay.

Jeff: Well, I was afraid one of you was going to yell, "In a manger." Which also could have been right.

Elise D: I think you could give us points for that.

Jeff: Would not have. Okay, let's go. All right, next one.

Jeff: Which prophet foretold that the Messiah would be born of a virgin?

Mark: Isaiah.

Jeff: Isaiah is correct. Mark ties the game. Oh, here we go. That's right.

Jeff: Are we ready for the next one? All right, let's go. Who ordered the census that brought Joseph and Mary to Bethlehem?

Elise D: Oh man. Well, it was the -- I think it was the Pharaoh of Egypt and I can't think of his name.

Elise N: Xerxes?

Jeff: I don't think that's it. Last I checked, the Egyptians did not occupy Palestine.

Elise D: Oh no, Rome. It was Rome. The Roman Emperor. He did it.

Elise N: The Roman Emperor. He still doesn't think his name is Xerxes. Xerxes -- that would be -- that's not it. Xerxes was Persian. That's not it. The Roman Emperor -- I don't know.

Elise D: Is it Pontius Pilate or is that someone else?

Jeff: That's the one who sent Jesus to death. Are you ready? Caesar Augustus.

Elise N: Dang it. It's like the first or second sentence in the book of Luke. Caesar Augustus -- I know, I know. Not Xerxes. Called for a census.

Jeff: All right. Question four. Getting harder. What Old Testament prophecy does Matthew say was fulfilled when the Holy Family fled to Egypt?

Elise D: What Old Testament prophecy does Matthew say? He quotes it?

Jeff: He fulfilled when the Holy Family fled to Egypt. He quotes it. He quotes it.

Elise N: What? I don't know.

Jeff: Out of Egypt -- you know, he said --

Elise D: I don't know this one. Okay, we're going to go with no points on this one.

Jeff: Out of Egypt I called my son. Hosea 11:1. That's a deep cut.

Elise N: We're supposed to get harder. I know. I don't know. Are we tied right now?

Jeff: We are tied. Oh my goodness. Okay, we got two left. Okay, here we go. If we're talking about -- I'm going to have to dig into last year's trivia.

Jeff: Okay, this is not going to be a tie. Here we go. How many women are mentioned in Matthew's genealogy of Jesus? And if you name them, I'll give you an extra point for each one.

Elise N: I feel like Michaela had named a whole bunch of women. Three.

Jeff: I mean, there were definitely a couple Marys.

Elise D: I'm going to say -- you're going with three. I'm going to say five.

Mark: You're going with five? More than three. Four.

Jeff: You're going with four. You're going with three. You're going with five. Yeah, there's four. Oh, are you kidding me!

Jeff: Can you name any of them?

Mark: Rachel?

Elise N: Mary.

Jeff: Mary? No. You guys, you're done. Tamar, Ruth, Bathsheba. You guys don't know.

Elise D: No, we don't.

Mark: I knew Ruth. I knew Ruth was in the lineage of Jesus.

Jeff: Where is Amy Knover when you need her? Do you know who Tamar was?

Elise N: No.

Jeff: That was Judah's daughter-in-law, and she snuck in and slept with him in his tent.

Elise D: Oh yeah. Remember that one?

Jeff: All the women named here are like not your normal upright women. Yeah, that's crazy. You know who Rahab was?

Elise N: Yeah. The kinsman redeemer?

Jeff: Nope. That was Ruth. No, that was -- Boaz was the kinsman redeemer. But Rahab was the prostitute that lived in Jericho. Oh right. Yeah. That the spies came in and she hid the spies. And so they rescued her and her family before they destroyed the town of Jericho. So another prostitute. Ruth was a Moabite. She wasn't even Hebrew. And she married Boaz. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, there's a deep, deep story there.

Jeff: I like this picture though. Bathsheba was the woman that David slept with. That was Uriah's wife, with the whole scandal about that, remember?

Elise N: Yeah, and then where he got Uriah killed and covered it up.

Jeff: Yeah. See, these are in the genealogy. That's wild. That's why it's interesting. It's telling us something, which is cool too.

Elise N: Yes, it is.

Jeff: All right. Next question. This is -- I got to get this one to tie it. You do. It's seven to six. That was a lucky guess. To be -- just let's just, for the record, Elise's was a lucky guess.

Elise N: I will take it.

Jeff: I'll see if you guys can do this one. It's not based on knowledge. Name one title given to the Messiah in Isaiah 9:6.

Elise D: Okay. Prince of Peace. I have no idea. But I know what I'm doing when I'm here.

Jeff: You get a point for each one you name.

Elise N: Oh, okay. You better answer two now.

Mark: Oh, dang it. There's a song. King of Kings, Lord of Lords.

Jeff: Are you going to sing next? She said Prince of Peace. Yeah.

Elise D: Adonai? Hosea? I don't know. Dang it! I can't think of any.

Jeff: Prince of Peace, Mighty One. You're getting closer.

Elise N: Yeah, I'm just trying to think.

Elise D: No, I don't know.

Jeff: All right. Let's get them out of the way. Here we go. Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Oh, and let's just notice who got it. You got one of four. Hey.

Jeff: You won eight to six.

Elise N: Oh, good job. I did so much better than last year, and I didn't even study.

Jeff: Wonderful, thanks. Everybody got to watch this year.

Jeff: That was it. All right. Okay. So brush up on that. I mean, if you guys have family trivia, you guys can roll in here. You know what we should do? We should publish these Handbid slides somewhere.

Elise N: Yeah, a good free download. A free download, put that on our website.

Jeff: Yeah, exactly right, next to our auction kickoff ebook or whatever we have up there. Christmas trivia. Better than we did last year. We did so much better.

Elise N: Yeah, I think there were more correct answers.

Jeff: I agree. This year -- I mean, think about it -- there were fourteen correct answers. Last year I feel like there was like none. It was rough last year. It was rough.

Elise D: I told Shane this morning, I went downstairs and I got my Christmas sweater. And then I said, I'm feeling woo-ed. And he says, why? I said, we have Christmas trivia today for our podcast. And he goes, "Oh, heavens." Because he watched last year's and he was like, that was brutal. I'm like, you're telling me.

Jeff: Made it a little easier this year. That was good. Yeah, it was good. We'll have to do a turn-of-the-year dad jokes episode. It'll be Mark and I. We go on a lot. We'll have to do that.

Elise N: Yeah, New Year's resolutions. That's right. New Year's resolution dad jokes, and everybody should submit a dad joke.

Elise D: Maybe what is this -- maybe I know -- I have dad jokes from women. I'm sorry. I have lots of --

Jeff: Is that sound sexist?

Elise D: That doesn't. Shouldn't dad jokes come from dads?

Elise N: No, it's true. I agree. Yeah, no. We live with the dad. We live with dads.

Jeff: Then have your dad submit them. All right, should we wrap this thing? That's it. That's it. Happy Christmas. You guys have a wonderful, amazing Christmas holiday, new year, and we'll see you next year.

Elise N: That's right. Happy holidays.

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